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Tren Extreme & Tren Informative Bible

Posted by admin on December 12, 2009

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Tren Bible

Tren is a popular over-the-counter anabolic steroid/pro-hormone, Tren is one of the more storied compounds on the market and also one of the most confusing as they’re are four separate compounds that are commonly referred to as Tren. However two of the forms (17b-methoxy-trenbolone) and (13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)-diene-17-one) have been discontinued or are non-existent.

This article primarily covers the two most popular and available forms (estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione) and (19-Norandrosta4,9diene-3,17dione) both of these compounds should be treated as being identical, these two include products such as….

1. Competitive Edge Labs – X-Tren

2. Fast Action – Trena

Many others have been discontinued to FDA pressure, but at the time of this posting, both of the above could be found online for purchase from major supplement vendors. Just to note throughout this article we will be using competitive edge labs x-tren as our source for Tren and the article is being written around x-tren but other ‘tren’ products should be interchangeable.

Health Protection

Tren is a non-methylated compound therefore it’s liver safe, however despite this Tren is quite possibly the strongest non-methylated product available and carries our Class III rating. Therefore it will negatively impact blood pressure, lipid values, cholesterol levels and will put strain on the bodies endocrine system, there is also additional less serious side effects that we will discuss later. Most of these negative side effects have been present in steroid usage for decades, luckily over the years preventative herbal supplementation has been vastly improved to provide our bodies with protection for our lipid values, cholesterol levels and help control adverse blood pressure effects. All-in-one cycle protection products have existed for several years and should be a staple in any steroid or pro-hormone cycle, therefore an all-in-one will be our basis for on cycle health support and is required for a proper cycle

1. Anabolic Innovations – Cycle Support (Powder)

2. Anabolic Innovations – Life Support (Capsules)

3. Competitive Edge Labs – Cycle Assist (Capsules)

Either of the three are suitable choices, cost should be the deciding factor or whether you prefer capsules or powder. A general rule of thumb is to pre-load either of the products two weeks prior to beginning your cycle and continue to use throughout the entire cycle from start to finish, buy accordingly so you have enough on hand. These products will assist your body with maintaining healthy blood pressure, prostate health, liver function and lipid profile by utilizing popular herbs such as Hawthorn Berry (BP), NAC (liver), Milk Thistle (liver), Saw Palmetto (prostate) among others. Please follow the manufactures recommended dosage (as per bottle) as it’s the dosage known to work best.

One of the potential downside’s of Tren is the potential of progestin induced gyno or flare ups of existing gyno cases, while rare, we need to take this into consideration. Therefore we recommend all users run P-5-P on cycle, follow the recommended dosage on the bottle, if you experience any flare ups, bump the dosage into the 150-250mg range.

Dosing

Tren needs to be dosed relatively high to be at it’s peak efficiency, cycles are typically 4-7 weeks in length, however for the most part 6 weeks is considered to be the sweet spot. We recommend that new Tren users start with a 5 week cycle. Regardless of experience we don’t believe users should experiment with dosages any higher than 120mg, past this point the added health risk versus benefits simply aren’t worth the risk.

Tren dosing for new users:

Week1: 60mg / per day | Week 2-5: 90mg

Tren dosing for experienced users:

Week1: 90mg / per day | Week 2-6: 120mg / per day

We recommend splitting the dosages with one being taken in the morning and another around dinner (or preferably before workout). Advanced users can experiment with cycles in the 7-8 week range but as we often mention, the longer the cycle the longer you’re putting your health at risk keep it short and sweet and effective and 6 weeks gives you all of that. The dosing above is based on x-tren which is 30mg per pill, in the event you’re using another designer compound other than x-tren that has 20mg per pill, adjust your dosing to get as close to the numbers above.

Common Side Effects

The occurrence rate of side effects while using Tren would be from semi-mild to somewhat common, however they’re completely user unique, some users may not experience any side effects, while other users will experience a combination of sides. It should be noted that the majority of these side effects are simply of inconvenience more so than a possible health affecting issue and for the most part can be resolved through simple supplementation, take sometime to read our article on combating side effects.

* Decreased Libido/Sexual Function

* Lethargy / Fatigue

* Increased hair growth / Increased hair shedding

* Puffy / Sensitive Nipples (Potential Gyno Flares as well)

* Joint Discomfort

* Back Pumps (Dull pain in back after/during workouts)

* Increased aggression, head aches, flushing and various other sides can happen as well.

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Typical Results

Results will vary based upon the dosage, experience, diet and many other factors, in general Tren will provide exceptional lean body mass gains, incredible strength gains and endurance in the gym. Tren is most well known for it’s ability to quickly and extensively increase strength throughout the duration of a cycle, it works well in any circumstance whether cutting, bulking or recomping.

* When used in a bulking diet, gains can range from 9-14lbs on a 6 week cycle at 90mg.

* When used in a recomp diet, gains can range from 6-8lbs on a 6 week cycle at 90mg, while also possibly reducing body fat.

* When used in a cutting diet, gains can range from 2-4lbs on a 6 week cycle at 90mg, while also possibly reducing body fat.

The ‘gain’ ranges above are considered somewhat normal, however some users have reported gains in upwards of 20lbs and some users may not experience many noticeable gains at all, results are largely dictated by diet. Gains are based on a lot of factors, but most importantly, keep your calorie intake very high throughout the cycle to maximize gains and don’t forget to lift hard & heavy with appropriate form.

Post Cycle Therapy

Possibly the most important item on the menu is post cycle therapy, when taking a foreign substance that creates testosterone your body begins to shut down it’s normal production, when you stop taking a pro-hormone or steroid compound your body needs a way to jump start it’s own natural production again, while limiting endocrine system stress, this is why we need post cycle therapy. It’s not just as simple as that however, when coming off of a compound your body goes through a very stressful phase as your hormones are out of balance, failure to mitigate these imbalances can result in a unique set of side effects not related to the tren compound. Below is just a *few* of the noted side effects of an improper post cycle therapy regiment, it should also be noted that the occurrence of side effects in the post cycle stage is more common than the “on-cycle” phase, however a properly planned post cycle therapy regiment can mitigate these risks.

* Gynecomastia / Gyno (or Man Boobs)

* Anxiety/Depression (Can range mild to severe)

* Body Aches/Pains (Can range mild to severe)

* Impotence and other sexual function side effects.

* Loss of gains made on cycle.

As you can see, these are side affects we definitely want to avoid at all costs, so let’s start discussing a proper Tren PCT (Post Cycle Therapy).

Post Cycle General: You should begin your PCT regiment immediately after your pro-hormone or designer steroid cycle, it should begin the day after your last dosage of tren. PCT regiments are typically 4-6 weeks depending on the type of compound being used, user and type of PCT. As noted in the previous section under “Maintaining Health”, you should continue to use Life Support, Cycle Assist or Cycle Support throughout your entire cycle, INCLUDING your PCT regiment.

* Boost Natural Testosterone Production.

* Regulate Estrogen.

* Restore HPTA function.

* Reducing SHBG.

* Control Cortisol Effects.

Over The Counter: An OTC (Over The Counter) post cycle therapy regiment is NOT an acceptable PCT for Tren, for Tren cycles a Research Drug is REQUIRED. Some users will argue that in some cases an OTC PCT will suffice for Tren, but it’s not worth the risk, go with a SERM (prescription grade) PCT and feel confident that your body will recover.

Research Drugs: The MOST effective PCT regiment is one that includes a prescription/research drug, however some users prefer not to go this route, you may be asking why would someone go another route if this is the most proven and effective PCT method. There’s various reasons but one to point out is that these drugs aren’t technically available without a prescription, these are also very powerful drugs that can also have their own side effects, notice that I say they aren’t “technically” available that’s because they can be purchased online at research drug sites, we can’t provide you with any links, if you chose to go this route googling for these sites will won’t take you long. We recommend using Clomid with Tren as it interacts with progesterone differently than Nolvadex, which helps with Gyno prevention.

1. Clomid. Comes in Liquid or Pill form.

2. Competitive Edge Labs – P.C.T Assist

Below is an example PCT when using the research drug Clomid.

Product Week 1 Week 2 Week 3 Week 4 Week 5

Clomid 75mg 50mg 50mg 25mg none

PCT Assist 5 capsules 5 capsules 5 capsules 5 capsules 4 capsules

Example Cycle

This is an example cycle from start to finish to give you an idea how it should look, assumes you’re using Clomid. From start to finish our properly designed cycle will take approximately 11 weeks total. Don’t forget to include P-5-P if you chose the follow that recommendation.

Product Wk1 Wk2 Wk3 Wk4 Wk 5 Wk6 Wk7 Wk8 Wk9 Wk10 Wk11 Wk12 Wk13

Life/Cycle Support Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes no

TREN no no 60mg 90mg 90mg 90mg 90mg 90mg no no no no no

Clomid no no no no no no no no 75mg 50mg 50mg 50mg no

P.C.T Assist no no no no no no no no 5 Pills 5 Pills 5 Pills 5 Pills 4 Pills

Stacking

Tren is incredibly effective on it’s own but due to it’s non-methylated status it’s frequently stacked with other methylated steroids such as halodrol (h-drol) and epistane (e-stane), keep in mind if deciding to stack a methylated compound with Tren, we recommend also introducing Nolvadex into your PCT.

Supplements

It’s recommended that users supplement with a quality Multi-Vitamin and Fish Oil throughout the ENTIRE cycle, keep something on hand for your joints in the event you experience some discomfort Universal Animal Flex works wonders. You should stop taking any other supplements on Cycle as well such as Creatine, NO, Test Boosters and so on, these should be saved for PCT in order to preserve strength. It’s heavily recommended that during PCT, you add Creatine and a Cell Volumizer type of product. Supplementing with Protein is highly recommended on cycle

Interactions

Users who are on anti-depressant or anti-anxiety medication may experienced increased anxiety/depression while on cycle and during PCT. It is HEAVILY advised not to drink alcoholic drinks while on Cycle & PCT, doing so will put significant strain on the liver and can result in a major health hazard. Users should avoid using stimulants on cycle as blood pressure may elevate too high and possibly cause fainting. In general, avoid starting any new medications while on cycle or just before, if you’re concerned about a possible interaction consult your doctor. Users should also eat a clean diet on cycle.

Disclaimer

We are not doctors, therefore before starting any supplement or training regiment you should consult with your doctor. The information being provided is simply personal opinion.

fonte: http://tunedsports.com/?s=tren

[gabrielrvn]

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SHOW DE BOLA

Nota 10 pra essa matéria

Juntando tudo que eu ja li sobre tren xtreme em mais de 1 mes inteiro pesquisando, tem tudo ai nessa materia praticamente. Mto detalhada e esclarecedora

OBG!

[Squalo]

Inclusive fala sobre PCT, o que vai ajudar muita gente por aqui.

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SHOW DE BOLA

Nota 10 pra essa matéria

Juntando tudo que eu ja li sobre tren xtreme em mais de 1 mes inteiro pesquisando, tem tudo ai nessa materia praticamente. Mto detalhada e esclarecedora

OBG!

[oozaru]

Muito bom, o certo é usar esses pós ciclo já feitos.

[Squalo]

Se bem que ele recomenda o Clomid. Estou montando um stack de Tren+H-Drol e minha TPC vai ser com Clomid+Tamox.

Muito bom, o certo é usar esses pós ciclo já feitos.

[oozaru]

Sim, mas ele fala Clomid + produtos de varias ervas. Eu já pensei em usar Tren (seria o que eu usaria ou epistane), mas acho que só no final do ano que vem

[Squalo]

Então é bom providenciar logo, pelo que ouvi falar a produção vai ser descontinuada. Parece que a FDA proibiu a fabricação a partir de janeiro...

Quanto à TPC, além de regular o eixo, ela tem que previnir uma série de colaterais, como colesterol, problemas nas articulações, pressão alta, etc. por isso o uso de produtos que contenham substâncias "naturais" que combatam os colaterais. Eu estou tomando Saw Palmetto + Similarina + Semente de Uva + Óleo de Prímula + Óleo de Peixe + Vitmaina C + Multivitamínico durante o ciclo e TPC. Além disso, incluí no ciclo Taurina (1g/dia) para evitar o Back Pump e na TPC Tribullus + Clomid + Tamox + Nano Vapor.

Sim, mas ele fala Clomid + produtos de varias ervas. Eu já pensei em usar Tren (seria o que eu usaria ou epistane), mas acho que só no final do ano que vem

[gabrielrvn]

kra tu toma tribulus + clomid + tamox???

isso tudo??

vc foi a um endocrino? senao acho loucura tomar isso tudo na tpc..

o certo, na minha opiniao, seria tribulus + clomid OU tamox, ou um ou outro, jamais os dois de uma vez...

[Squalo]

Tamox serve para evitar gineco, entre outros. O Tribulus não faz isso, e depois, o Tribulos entra na última fase da TPC, quando parar de tomar o Clomid e o Tamox.

kra tu toma tribulus + clomid + tamox???

isso tudo??

vc foi a um endocrino? senao acho loucura tomar isso tudo na tpc..

o certo, na minha opiniao, seria tribulus + clomid OU tamox, ou um ou outro, jamais os dois de uma vez...

[Squalo]

Trecho do texto sobre o clomid e tamox:

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Pergunta: Porque os fisiculturistas utilizam o Clomid?

Resposta: Quase todos os anabólicos androgênicos causam uma inibição da produção de testosterona no corpo. Ao liberar os esteróides este passa a não ser mais produzido naturalmente. O corpo permanece em estado de catabolismo (Os hormônios catabólicos são altos e os anabólicos são baixos) e como resultado disso o tecido dos músculos ganho durante o ciclo agora são perdidos. O Clomid compete com o estrogênio endógeno nos receptores estrogênicos hipotalâmicos, produzindo aumento da secreção de Gn RH e dos níveis de LH e FSH. Isto resulta em um aumento da produção de testosterona própria.

Pergunta: O Clomid também funciona como um anti-estrogênio?

Resposta: O Clomid é um estrogênio sintético que também pode funcionar como um anti-estrogênio. Como ele funciona? Por ser um estrogênio sintético fraco ele pode ocultar o estrogênio receptor (ER) e não causar quaisquer problemas. Ao mesmo tempo o aumento de estrogênio dos esteróides são bloqueados pelo ER.

Pergunta: Qual a eficácia do Clomid como um anti-estrogênio?

Resposta: É bem baixa e não deve ser confiável até que você utilize esteróides que aromatizem rapidamente ou se tiver pré-disposição para Gine. Arimidex, Femara, Aromasin e Nolvadex são mais indicados neste caso.

Pergunta: Algumas pessoas dizem que o Clomid durante um ciclo é desperdício, é verdade?

Resposta: Vamos examinar primeiramente o que acontece com alguem que esteja utilizando esteróides androgênicos anabólicos. Quando o nivel androgênico no corpo é muito alto, o andrógeno receptor ativa-se mais e o hipotálamo para de enviar a mensagem a hipófise. A mensagem “diz” ao nosso corpo para parar de produzir testosterona. Durante um ciclo, o corpo possui altos níveis de androgênios, mais do que o normal, e a medida que este nível aumenta o suficiente, o Clomid não ajuda a aumentar a produção natural de testosterona. O único propósito de clomid durante o ciclo é como anti-estrogênio.

Pergunta: Preciso usar o Clomid por 3 semanas?

Resposta: Por que não? É barato, eficaz, vai reduzir as perdas pós ciclo e diminur problemas indesejáveis como os de libido. Se possível seria interessante prolongar esse tratamento por mais tempo já que nesse período pode não haver recuperação total da produção endógena de testosterona e espermatogênese.

O ideal seria fazer exames após essas três semanas recomendas para avaliar a necessidade de prolongar o uso ou não.

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Pra que serve o Tamoxifeno ?

Principalmente para a prevenção da ginecomastia em ciclos provientes da aromatização (conversão de androstenediona e testosterona em estronas e estrôgenos pela enzima aromatase), isso atráves provavelmente a sua capacidade de competir com o estrogênio ligando-se aos sítios dos tecidos ativos tais como a mama.

Pode também ser usado na TPC (terapia pós ciclo), pois assim como o Clomid (também derivado do trifeniletileno) inibe o estrogênio endógeno estimulando a secreção do Gn RH e consequentemente a produção de FSH ( Hormônio folículo estimulante, responsável por estimular a espermatogênese) e o LH (Hormônio luteinizante responsável pela produção endógena de testosterona através das células Leydig)

Como utilizar o Tamoxifeno pra previnir Ginecomastia em ciclos ?

Não é uma proteção 100% segura, pois depende da droga, pois alguns esteróides simplesmente não aromatizam como no caso da Trenbolona (Finaplix), porém pode causar um outro tipo de ginecomastia, a de origem prostogênica, depende também da dosagem, o tempo de uso e claro a disposição genética de cada um.

É normalmente utilizando em dosagens que variam de 10-40mg/dia conforme os fatores acima citados.

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